Comments on: Racist Fucktards Is Us http://www.uppityrib.com/archives/450 Wed, 14 Sep 2011 01:19:37 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Amy http://www.uppityrib.com/archives/450/comment-page-1#comment-2285 Amy Wed, 06 Jun 2007 01:05:28 +0000 http://www.uppityrib.com/archives/450#comment-2285 Well, now I need to crawl into my Fucket Bucket for a day or two. I've lived in the South for nearly 33 years, and I'm not backwards or inbred or racist. It's getting damn old being stereotyped because of where I live. It IS ridiculous that the black kids are being charged with attempted murder. That's bullshit. But the same thing could have happened anywhere else, and geography wouldn't even be mentioned. Fuck it. I'm going to eat some Oreos. Well, now I need to crawl into my Fucket Bucket for a day or two. I’ve lived in the South for nearly 33 years, and I’m not backwards or inbred or racist. It’s getting damn old being stereotyped because of where I live.

It IS ridiculous that the black kids are being charged with attempted murder. That’s bullshit. But the same thing could have happened anywhere else, and geography wouldn’t even be mentioned.

Fuck it. I’m going to eat some Oreos.

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By: Jo http://www.uppityrib.com/archives/450/comment-page-1#comment-2211 Jo Sun, 03 Jun 2007 01:46:16 +0000 http://www.uppityrib.com/archives/450#comment-2211 Under-prosecuted and over-prosecuted, depending on local sentiment. I still think that punishment based on the ideas of the accused is a slippery slope down which no good will come. Mixed metaphor anyone? It's an example of the band-aid approach. Plus, it does no good at all for those who are treated more stringently because of who they are rather than what they did. I still think that crimes should be punished for what they are and not for what the perpetrator (alleged or convicted) thought or believed. I am in favor of fixing a broken system rather than trying to patch it like an old bicycle innertube. Under-prosecuted and over-prosecuted, depending on local sentiment. I still think that punishment based on the ideas of the accused is a slippery slope down which no good will come. Mixed metaphor anyone?

It’s an example of the band-aid approach. Plus, it does no good at all for those who are treated more stringently because of who they are rather than what they did.

I still think that crimes should be punished for what they are and not for what the perpetrator (alleged or convicted) thought or believed. I am in favor of fixing a broken system rather than trying to patch it like an old bicycle innertube.

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By: Uppity http://www.uppityrib.com/archives/450/comment-page-1#comment-2207 Uppity Sat, 02 Jun 2007 22:14:39 +0000 http://www.uppityrib.com/archives/450#comment-2207 Hey Jo, I would never, ever want a Thought Police government and I didn’t mean to imply that in my post. My support of hate crime legislation is not so much about "enhanced penalties" for those crimes, as it is about enabling federal prosecutions when state and local authorities are unable or unwilling to do it. That's what the recently enacted Local Law Enforcement Hate Crimes Prevention Act does. In a perfect world, all criminal acts would be investigated, prosecuted, and punished appropriately by our law enforcement agencies. But the reality is, hate crimes have always been under prosecuted due to bias in the community and even in our own laws. The LLEHCPA offsets those systemic biases. Hey Jo, I would never, ever want a Thought Police government and I didn’t mean to imply that in my post.

My support of hate crime legislation is not so much about “enhanced penalties” for those crimes, as it is about enabling federal prosecutions when state and local authorities are unable or unwilling to do it. That’s what the recently enacted Local Law Enforcement Hate Crimes Prevention Act does.

In a perfect world, all criminal acts would be investigated, prosecuted, and punished appropriately by our law enforcement agencies. But the reality is, hate crimes have always been under prosecuted due to bias in the community and even in our own laws. The LLEHCPA offsets those systemic biases.

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By: Jo http://www.uppityrib.com/archives/450/comment-page-1#comment-2205 Jo Sat, 02 Jun 2007 17:16:04 +0000 http://www.uppityrib.com/archives/450#comment-2205 Now I have to disagree with Uppity. I don't want a government that throws out the first amendment, that punishes people for having the "wrong thoughts" or for being politically incorrect. It is the act that should be punished, not the motivation for it. Sure, hate is a bad thing, but I don't agree with enhanced penalties for what people think, only for what they do. It's only a short distance between doubling penalties for having the "wrong" idea, to having a thought police, punishing people for saying the "wrong" thing, and there goes one of our basic freedoms. I can disagree with what you say, but I will defend your right to say it. Now I have to disagree with Uppity. I don’t want a government that throws out the first amendment, that punishes people for having the “wrong thoughts” or for being politically incorrect.

It is the act that should be punished, not the motivation for it. Sure, hate is a bad thing, but I don’t agree with enhanced penalties for what people think, only for what they do.

It’s only a short distance between doubling penalties for having the “wrong” idea, to having a thought police, punishing people for saying the “wrong” thing, and there goes one of our basic freedoms. I can disagree with what you say, but I will defend your right to say it.

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